00:25:57 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: HaHa we got the time zone wrong. We will be back soon. 00:46:03 Doug Ball: Michelle is getting on I'll jump off now and be in the background 00:58:50 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: plus natalie and aimee Briscoe 🤚 00:59:55 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: Reacted to "plus natalie and aim..." with 🤚 01:00:14 Ashley: Reacted to "plus natalie and aim…" with 💕 01:00:42 Aimee Kincaid: I’d like to nominate Karen Stribg if she’s on 01:01:17 Q: I second Karen Strong 01:02:03 Eva Gore: You can count votes in the chat too 01:02:15 Emmelyn Redd: Ally is cutting in and out a lot for me 01:02:32 Emmelyn Redd: Is it that way for anyone else or just me? 01:02:36 Michelle Ball: Yes 01:02:40 May Archuletta: Yes 01:02:46 Kathy Llewellyn : Yes 01:02:47 Marie Johnatakis: Yes- for common consent 01:02:48 Aimee Kincaid: Yes 01:02:48 Nancy Stucki: Yes 01:02:48 brenda: Yes 01:02:49 Kami: Si 01:02:49 Ashley: Replying to "Ally is cutting in a…" She isn’t for me… maybe an internet issue Emmelyn? 01:02:49 Naomi Pankratz: Yes 01:02:53 Emmelyn Redd: Yes 01:02:56 Jill VH: yes 01:02:58 Sharene: Yes 01:03:01 Nichole Sair: yes 01:03:02 Mighty Heidi: Yes 01:03:04 Lacey Quigley: Yes 01:03:05 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: yes yes yes for common consent 01:03:06 May Archuletta: Replying to "Ally is cutting in a…" Must be in your end Emmelyn. It’s perfect over here. 01:03:09 Ashley: Yes 01:03:14 Rose: yes 01:03:15 jelb roadrunner: common consent yes. 01:03:16 kara & trev: Yes! 01:03:22 Melinda Francks: Yes 01:03:27 Annette & Joe - Ohio: yes 01:03:32 Margaret: Yes 01:03:57 jelb roadrunner: I also like parliamentary procedure for oranization 01:04:51 McKaye Johnson: Yes 01:05:15 Marie Johnatakis: Town hall disucssion 01:05:19 karenstrong: Town Hall 01:05:23 Catherine Sweet: M 01:05:24 TammyJo: m 01:05:25 May Archuletta: WCF 01:05:27 Sharene: M 01:05:28 Michelle Ball: WCF 01:05:29 Kami: Either? 01:05:31 Kathy Alexander: Town hall 01:05:31 kara & trev: M 01:05:32 Leanneiphone: Town hall 01:05:36 Amy: Townhall 01:05:37 Mighty Heidi: Town Hall Meeting 01:05:40 Melinda Francks: Either 01:05:40 Rose: M 01:05:42 Michelle’s iPhone: M 01:05:44 Q: Townhall 01:05:45 Jill VH: m 01:05:45 Ashley: TH 01:05:51 Margaret: Either 01:05:51 KB: M 01:05:55 Lynn : Meeting 01:06:02 Marlene: town hall 01:06:08 Aimee Kincaid: WCF 01:06:28 Kathi Or: M 01:06:44 the Bates family: Either 01:06:55 McKaye Johnson: WCF 01:06:58 Annette & Joe - Ohio: I think this vote should be taken at the end of the meeting, depending on how it develops 01:07:12 Mark&Carolyn Barlow: M 01:07:16 Naomi Pankratz: M 01:07:16 brenda: M 01:07:18 Kathy Llewellyn : M 01:07:31 Amanda Schutz Clayton: My vote - Town hall. I think Stephanie is supposed to moderate a women’s conference dispute meeting. She doesn’t have to be at every woman’s conference meeting. 01:07:40 Nancy Stucki: M 01:07:42 angie cella: M 01:07:56 Susie: M 01:07:58 Lynne Robbins: M 01:08:05 Eva Gore: M 01:08:11 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: M M M 01:08:22 Lynn : es 01:08:23 jelb roadrunner: y 01:08:25 May Archuletta: Yes 01:08:26 Michelle Ball: Yes 01:08:30 Sharene: Yes 🥰 01:08:32 KB: Y 01:08:32 the Bates family: H 01:08:34 Michelle Ball: H 01:08:34 Lynne Robbins: H 01:08:36 Aimee Kincaid: H 01:08:36 Sharene: H 01:08:36 Amanda Schutz Clayton: H 01:08:36 Naomi Pankratz: H 01:08:38 Kathi Or: H 01:08:38 Nancy Stucki: H 01:08:41 Leanneiphone: Yes 01:08:43 Jill VH: h 01:08:44 kara & trev: H 01:08:44 Kathy Alexander: H 01:08:44 Arlene: H 01:08:49 Lynn : Husbands/yes 01:08:50 angie cella: Either way 😉 01:08:50 Mighty Heidi: Yes to husbands 01:08:55 TammyJo: H 01:08:59 brenda: H 01:09:00 Emmelyn Redd: H 01:09:03 Susie: H 01:09:04 Rose: H 01:09:07 Kami: I need a husband assigned to me🤣 01:09:15 Eva Gore: H 01:09:21 Kathy Alexander: Reacted to I need a husband ass... with "😂" 01:09:24 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I need a husband ass…" with 😂 01:09:31 Emmelyn Redd: Replying to "I need a husband ass…" Me too! 01:09:32 karenstrong: Whatever a woman wants 01:09:48 Marlene: H 01:09:52 the Bates family: I agree with May 01:09:59 Bethany’s iPhone: Reacted to "I agree with May" with ❤️ 01:10:06 May Archuletta: Reacted to "I need a husband ass…" with 😂 01:10:11 Kathy Alexander: Replying to "I need a husband ass..." Kami, I have a single son. Let's talk. Lol 01:10:17 jelb roadrunner: please stay 01:10:24 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to I need a husband ass... with "😂" 01:10:40 Lynn : Connie STAY!! 01:11:08 Catherine Sweet: My husband is here from Heaven 01:11:17 Ashley: Reacted to "My husband is here f…" with 💕 01:11:20 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "My husband is here f..." with 💕 01:11:28 Emmelyn Redd: 2 each, wow! 01:11:29 Ashley: Reacted to "I think this vote sh…" with 💕 01:11:29 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Reacted to "My husband is here f..." with ❤️ 01:11:39 Ashley: Reacted to "My vote - Town hall.…" with 👍 01:11:43 the Bates family: Reacted to "My husband is here f..." with ❤️ 01:11:46 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "My husband is here f…" with 💕 01:11:49 Michelle Ball: Open 01:11:50 Kami: Y! 01:11:50 karenstrong: Open for sure 01:11:54 Leanneiphone: Yes 01:11:54 Michelle’s iPhone: Open 01:11:54 Sharene: Open 01:11:55 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Open 01:11:56 Naomi Pankratz: Yes 01:11:57 Bethany’s iPhone: Yes 01:11:57 jelb roadrunner: yes to chat box 01:11:57 Emmelyn Redd: Open! 01:11:59 Marlene: OPEN! 01:11:59 iPhone (19): Open 01:12:00 Lacey Quigley: Yes 01:12:00 Lynne Robbins: Yes, need chat open 01:12:01 brenda: Yes 01:12:01 Nancy Stucki: Yes 01:12:01 Lynn : Yes/Open 01:12:02 Kathi Or: Y 01:12:02 Mighty Heidi: Yes! Chat box open 01:12:03 Arlene: open 01:12:04 Kathy Llewellyn (Springville, Utah): yes 01:12:05 Margaret: Open 01:12:06 May Archuletta: Free speech. Yes! 01:12:07 Kathy Alexander: Open 01:12:08 TammyJo: open 01:12:08 Rose: Y 01:12:08 Ashley: Open 01:12:09 Jill VH: yes 01:12:10 McKaye Johnson: Open 01:12:11 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: Y Y Y open 01:12:16 Shawnee: Open 01:12:23 Ashley: 2-3 minutes 01:12:31 Kathy Alexander: 2 min ish 01:12:31 iPhone (19): 2-3 min 01:12:33 Michelle’s iPhone: 2-3 01:12:36 May Archuletta: No time limit 01:12:37 karenstrong: 2-3 is great. But they can speak again if desired after alittle 01:12:37 Arlene: 2-3 01:12:38 Michelle Ball: 3 01:12:38 Marlene: 2-3minutes 01:12:39 Mighty Heidi: No more than 5 01:12:40 brenda: 2-3 01:12:40 Emmelyn Redd: 2-3 is good 01:12:43 Rose: 2-3 01:12:43 Kathy Llewellyn (Springville, Utah): 2-3 01:12:49 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: 2-3 01:12:54 Amanda Schutz Clayton: 2-3 min, then a reminder for sure. 01:12:57 Lynn : 2-3 unless that’s not enough 01:13:52 karenstrong: Yes 01:13:53 Nichole Sair: Absolutely 01:13:54 the Bates family: Sounds good 01:13:56 Kathy Alexander: Yes 01:13:57 Michelle Ball: Yes 01:13:58 Michelle’s iPhone: Yes 01:13:59 angie cella: Yes 01:14:01 McKaye Johnson: Yes 01:14:01 Ashley: Yes 01:14:01 Lacey Quigley: Yes 01:14:03 Marlene: YES! 01:14:28 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Probably lean towards that, yes. But not hard fast rule on it. 01:14:56 Kathy Alexander: I love you Connie 01:15:14 ann marie: Yes ! 01:15:53 ann marie: Praying for you Connie ❤️🙏🏽 01:17:55 Ashley: Reacted to "Praying for you Conn…" with 💕 01:18:05 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to Praying for you Conn... with "💕" 01:20:53 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Concern: It’s not necessarily first hand info on the organizer document, like a direct testimony from someone actually involved in the council. And the man in question is not here to say if he’s being quoted correctly. 01:21:23 Ashley: Reacted to "Concern: It’s not ne…" with 💕 01:21:33 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "Concern: It’s not ne..." with 👍 01:21:41 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Concern: It’s not ne…" with 👍 01:22:42 Ally: Reacted to "Concern: It’s not..." with 👍 01:26:42 KB: I'm having the same battle in the opposite direction. And I'm the absolute minority. It's rough here. 01:27:06 Lynn : My main concern is what is the space for repentance and relationship with the Savior since this is what we are here to learn. Do we hope that the restrictions imposed will lead to good fruit? I hope that the man’s experience is more important than how it was handled. 01:27:20 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Replying to "I'm having the same ..." I would love to hear your perspective! 01:27:28 Ally: Reacted to "I would love to he..." with 👍 01:27:32 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "I would love to hear..." with 👍 01:28:04 KB: Replying to "I'm having the same ..." I've shared it but I get ignored. It's fine though, I'm used to it 😂 01:28:15 Lynne Robbins: If there is anyone here who did not get Karen's letter last night regarding her conversation with Jennifer Willis I think it would be a good idea if Karen would read that here. It has a few very significant points which have bearing . 01:28:23 Ashley: I love you Kathy. 🥰 01:28:46 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Replying to "I'm having the same ..." Is this Kim? 01:29:10 KB: Replying to "I'm having the same ..." Yes 👍 01:29:14 Ally: Reacted to "I love you Kathy. ..." with ❤️ 01:29:21 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Replying to "I'm having the same ..." I try to read everything you share! I appreciate everything that I’ve seen you post! 🙂 01:30:06 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I would love to hear…" with 👍 01:30:16 KB: Reacted to I try to read everyt... with "❤️" 01:31:25 Kami: Reacted to I'm having the same ... with "❤️" 01:31:29 jelb roadrunner: Replying to "I'm having the same ..." I appreciate your thoughts Kim🌻 01:31:52 Ally: Reacted to "I appreciate your ..." with ❤️ 01:31:59 Ally: Reacted to "I try to read ever..." with ❤️ 01:31:59 Aimee Kincaid: Reacted to "I'm having the same …" with 🤗 01:32:00 Ashley: Reacted to "Yes 👍" with 💕 01:32:13 Aimee Kincaid: Reacted to "I'm having the same …" with ❤️ 01:32:40 Kami: Did the organizers post the questions for the conference? I thought I saw some but can't find them now? Did I imagine that? 01:33:18 KB: Reacted to I appreciate your th... with "❤️" 01:33:55 Emmelyn Redd: Replying to "I'm having the same …" I don’t know if I’ve come across what you’ve written, but I would love to hear your thoughts here, Kim! 01:34:41 the Bates family: Replying to "I'm having the same ..." I have read what you’ve written, too. 🙂 There’s just too much out there to respond to it all, I would imagine. 01:35:44 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Replying to "Did the organizers p..." #1 Do you sustain the process used by the women’s councils [1&2] as fair, just, and in accordance with the Lord’s instructions? #2 Do you sustain this women’s council’s [2] authority to remove a man’s priesthood certificate? 01:35:46 Aimee Kincaid: The questions are: 1. Do you sustain the process used by the women’s councils as fair, just, and in accordance with the Lord’s instructions? 2. Do you sustain this women’s council’s authority to remove this man’s priesthood certificate? 01:35:53 karenstrong: Remember, that at this point you are only reading ONE side of the evidence. So, we must see what the council says happened. What we didn’t see yet is the months of experience that was behind what we were shown. I address this in the email I sent out just before this meeting. But yes, Marie, I’m sure this is very tender for you given what happened to your husband. 01:35:59 Aaron: Thank you Marie 01:36:06 Aimee Kincaid: Reacted to "Thank you Marie" with ❤️ 01:36:09 Aaron: Reacted to "Thank you Marie" with ❤️ 01:36:33 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Reacted to "Remember, that at th..." with 👍 01:36:37 Mighty Heidi: Questions 1-Do you sustain the process used by this women's council(s) as fair, just and in accordance with the Lord's instructions? 2-Do you sustain this women's council(s) authority to remove this man's priesthood certificate? 01:37:01 Kami: Thanks!! 01:37:13 karenstrong: Yes—VERY one sided. We have not heard their rebuttal. We heard what the prosecution wants us to see. 01:37:23 Ally: Thank you, Emmelyn. I meant to thank you but forgot! 01:37:27 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Thank you, Emmelyn. …" with 👍 01:37:39 TammyJo: Emmelyn do you have another comment? 01:37:53 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to Remember, that at th... with "👍" 01:37:57 Susie: Shouldn't it be the man who brings forth his complaint to the council rather than getting women to do the defending for him? 01:38:09 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "Shouldn't it be the ..." with 👍 01:38:13 Aaron: Reacted to "Shouldn't it be the …" with 👍 01:38:13 jelb roadrunner: Thank you Sharene 01:38:24 TammyJo: Replying to "Emmelyn do you have ..." Thanks Emmelyn💚 01:38:27 KB: Replying to "I'm having the same ..." Honestly seeing the accusations, attribution of motive etc..toward Kalisa and Jennifer makes those of us more neutral quite intimidated to say anything. I try but it's scary. I speak as much as I'm comfortable though. So far I haven't had much feedback. And that's okay. 01:38:29 Michelle Ball: Reacted to "Shouldn't it be the …" with 👍 01:38:56 Kylee: Reacted to with "❤️" 01:38:58 karenstrong: Amen—Sharene. None of us know what all the behind scenes conversations were that led to some of the emotional expressions on the email threads. 01:39:04 Kylee: Reacted to Honestly seeing the ... with "❤️" 01:39:15 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Reacted to "Honestly seeing the ..." with ❤️ 01:39:21 Emmelyn Redd: Replying to "Emmelyn do you have …" Thanks for reminding me to lower! 01:39:35 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Amen—Sharene. None …" with ❤️ 01:39:51 May: Read ourselves 01:39:55 Aimee Kincaid: Jennifer also called me after I posted a comment on her blog digging for information and whether I was on the council or knew who was 01:40:01 McKaye Johnson: Ourselves 01:40:01 Kathy Llewellyn (Springville, Utah): yes 01:40:32 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Replying to "I'm having the same ..." I honesty like to hear perspectives from all over, and I appreciate what you’ve shared Kim! Thank you for your bravery! 01:40:49 Connie Waterman: Reacted to Amen—Sharene. None ... with "❤️" 01:41:08 karenstrong: Sharene, I feel your frustration—when you know so much, it is hard to remain silent. There’s this difficult line of trying to figure out what is appropriate to say and what is not when you know that if people knew that actual full story, they would be likely alarmed. 01:41:13 KB: That's how it should be! 01:42:15 Eva Gore: Replying to "Sharene, I feel your..." Yes 01:42:52 Ashley: Reacted to "Sharene, I feel your…" with 💕 01:43:27 Emmelyn Redd: Amen, May! 01:43:35 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Sharene, I feel your…" with 💕 01:43:45 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to Amen, May! with "👍" 01:44:15 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "Sharene, I feel your..." with 💕 01:44:32 Connie Waterman: I have been in therapy all day and I didn't even read all of these emails, etc. I am in the dark. This is becoming ridiculous in my mind! 01:44:49 Connie Waterman: Reacted to I have been in thera... with "👍" 01:45:20 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I have been in thera…" with 👍 01:46:07 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Replying to "I have been in thera..." Take care of yourself, Connie!🌻🌹💕 01:46:37 Ally: Reacted to "Take care of yours..." with ❤️ 01:46:45 Aimee Kincaid: Amen Angie! 01:47:01 Ashley: Reacted to "Amen, May!" with 👍 01:47:02 May: AMEN, Angie! I 100% agree! This is all the choice, because it’s actually not a form of government at all! 01:47:07 Ashley: Reacted to "I have been in thera…" with 👍 01:47:11 Ashley: Reacted to "Amen Angie!" with 💕 01:47:11 Susie: Reacted to "AMEN, Angie! I 100% ..." with 👍 01:47:18 Eva Gore: Reacted to "AMEN, Angie! I 100% ..." with ❤️ 01:47:20 Susie: Reacted to "Amen Angie!" with 👍 01:47:21 Ally: Reacted to "AMEN, Angie! I 100..." with ❤️ 01:47:22 Ally: Reacted to "Amen Angie!" with 💕 01:47:24 Ashley: Reacted to "AMEN, Angie! I 100% …" with 👍 01:47:39 Susie: Reacted to "Take care of yoursel..." with ❤️ 01:47:44 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to AMEN, Angie! I 100% ... with "❤️" 01:47:46 Connie Waterman: My phone is overheating badly and is burning my hand, I need to leave and shut my phone down. God bless you all my friends! 🙏🏻❤️ 01:47:47 karenstrong: Amen, Angie. 01:47:58 Kathy Alexander: Reacted to "My phone is overheat..." with ❤️ 01:48:00 Susie: Reacted to "My phone is overheat..." with ❤️ 01:48:02 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "My phone is overheat..." with ❤️ 01:48:02 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Reacted to "My phone is overheat..." with 💕 01:48:02 Kami: Reacted to My phone is overheat... with "❤️" 01:48:05 Ally: Reacted to "My phone is overhe..." with ❤️ 01:48:07 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: Reacted to "My phone is overheat..." with ❤️ 01:48:09 Emmelyn Redd: Replying to "My phone is overheat…" We love you, Connie!!! 01:48:11 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "My phone is overheat…" with ❤️ 01:48:11 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "My phone is overheat…" with 💕 01:48:14 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to My phone is overheat... with "💕" 01:48:14 Eva Gore: Reacted to "My phone is overheat..." with ❤️ 01:48:16 Susie: Reacted to "Amen, Angie." with ❤️ 01:48:29 Eva Gore: Replying to "My phone is overheat..." Love you so much Sweet Connie 01:48:30 Ashley: Reacted to "My phone is overheat…" with ❤️ 01:48:33 jelb roadrunner: Replying to "My phone is overheat..." Iove you Connie! 01:48:37 Ally: Reacted to "Amen, Angie." with ❤️ 01:48:39 Bethany’s iPhone: Absolutely! 01:48:55 Aimee Kincaid: Reacted to "My phone is overheat…" with ❤️ 01:52:46 Sharene: Personally, if this issue continues to be brought up after the vote at the conference, I don't believe I will continue to engage and give it validity. But I do feel the importance of going to the conference (only because I am able) and casting my vote, because I feel it is the only way to hopefully end this conflict and for the organizers to move on. But if the vote doesn't go the way they want it to, I hope the organizers will let it rest (and let us rest, too). 01:53:03 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Reacted to "Personally, if this ..." with 👍 01:53:09 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to Personally, if this ... with "👍" 01:53:14 McKaye Johnson: Reacted to "Personally, if this …" with 👍 01:53:14 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "Personally, if this ..." with 💯 01:53:25 Ashley: Reacted to "Personally, if this …" with 💯 01:53:30 kara & trev: Reacted to "Personally, if this …" with ❤️ 01:53:31 Catherine Sweet: yeah, me too, I'm interested in the NVC group too 01:53:48 Ally: Reacted to "yeah, me too, I'm ..." with 👍 01:54:01 Ally: Reacted to "Personally, if thi..." with 💯 01:54:35 karenstrong: Yes, Sharene! That’s my view. After this one, I’m done! I won’t participate in this again. But I can’t leave these council women to bear this burden alone. 01:54:45 TammyJo: Reacted to "yeah, me too, I'm in..." with 💚 01:54:49 Arlene: Reacted to "Yes, Sharene! That’..." with ❤️ 01:54:52 Ashley: Reacted to "Yes, Sharene! That’…" with 💕 01:55:01 Arlene: Reacted to "Personally, if this ..." with ❤️ 01:55:02 Mighty Heidi: Reacted to "Yes, Sharene! That’…" with ❤️ 01:55:53 Ally: Reacted to "Yes, Sharene! That..." with ❤️ 01:55:57 Susie: I'm just feeling baffled. why are we women in the movement having to deal with this? 01:56:00 Sharene: Reacted to "Yes, Sharene! That’…" with ❤️ 01:57:03 KB: Amen Carolyn 01:57:11 Kylee: Reacted to Amen Carolyn with "❤️" 01:57:12 Aimee Kincaid: Well, because we need to answer the Lord’s call because there is a dispute that’s been brought to the general assembly 01:57:13 Ashley: Reacted to "Amen Carolyn" with 💕 01:57:22 Valerie: Reacted to "Amen Carolyn" with ❤️ 01:57:32 Marie Johnatakis: Feeling the same way Carolyn 01:57:37 Kylee: Reacted to Feeling the same way... with "❤️" 01:57:47 KB: Reacted to Feeling the same way... with "❤️" 01:58:54 Susie: But again, shouldn't it be the man dealing with the counsel rather than having women defend him? 01:59:20 Susie: Valid dispute? 01:59:36 Valerie: Reacted to "Feeling the same way…" with ❤️ 01:59:56 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to Personally, if this ... with "👍" 02:00:50 Sharene: I think so Susie, but when I asked that question at the last meeting in their minds it wasn't a valid council so there wasn't a need for the man to request for his certificate to be re-instated. That is their understanding, as I understand it. But T&C 179 does say a man can ask for it to be reinstated by the council who removed it, and only 7 have to vote to reinstate the certificate. 02:01:27 Susie: Exactly! 02:01:45 Amanda Schutz Clayton: I do wish the man was involved. I think it’s verging on inappropriate for the women to be bringing up his personal information for “our” dispute, without us knowing from his own mouth that he wants us to be doing this. It seems like it’s his grievance to bring up or not. 02:01:58 kara & trev: Reacted to "I do wish the man wa…" with ❤️ 02:02:01 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "I do wish the man wa..." with 👍 02:02:01 Susie: Reacted to "I do wish the man wa..." with 👍 02:02:08 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to I do wish the man wa... with "❤️" 02:02:08 Arlene: Reacted to "I do wish the man wa..." with 👍 02:02:11 Holly Ong: I agree Emmelyn 100% 02:02:18 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "I agree Emmelyn 100%" with 👍 02:02:29 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "I do wish the man wa..." with ❤️ 02:02:37 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "I agree Emmelyn 100%" with ❤️ 02:02:43 Arlene: Reacted to "I agree Emmelyn 100%" with 👍 02:02:50 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Personally, if this …" with 💯 02:02:52 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Personally, if this …" with 👍 02:03:11 Ashley: Reacted to "I think so Susie, bu…" with 💕 02:03:23 Ashley: Reacted to "I do wish the man wa…" with ❤️ 02:03:31 Ashley: Reacted to "I agree Emmelyn 100%" with ❤️ 02:03:34 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I'm just feeling baf…" with 🫂 02:03:36 Ally: Reacted to "I agree Emmelyn 10..." with ❤️ 02:04:09 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Lots of people have sent emails like that, to the conference organizers. The response (as far as I understand) has been that they can organize this all the way they want because it’s their conference. 02:04:31 Lark: I totally agree with that proposal 02:04:39 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I do wish the man wa…" with 👍 02:04:43 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I agree Emmelyn 100%" with ❤️ 02:05:21 Susie: YES!!!! 02:05:32 kara & trev: I agree with that as well, May, but my concern is that there would be some women left over who would vote—and vote to “overturn” the council. I believe it would happen that way and that “verdict” would be honored 02:05:33 May: Amen, Heidi! It is an assumption that the man can keep his certificate by overthrowing a council. 02:05:38 Nancy Stucki: Wow, Heidi 02:05:45 Aimee Kincaid: I think that the general women’s assembly OUGHT to consider validity 02:05:54 karenstrong: I think we have all felt the same, Heidi. But from what has beed displayed, it doesn’t look like the conference or Stephanie are going to give us that ability. 02:05:59 kara & trev: I agree with that, too, Heidi. 02:06:05 Aimee Kincaid: Because Jennifer held a one woman council to remove Louie’s certificate the first time 02:06:15 Amanda Schutz Clayton: I don’t think it has the authority to overthrow a council. I think the dispute 51%+ vote just shows the voice of the conference on a matter, so they can drop a dispute and move forward. 02:06:18 Paula Christensen: I wholly agree what you said Heidi. 02:06:28 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to Because Jennifer hel... with "👍" 02:06:31 Paula Christensen: Reacted to "Because Jennifer hel…" with 👍 02:06:39 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to I think we have all ... with "😮" 02:06:39 Lark: Ditto 02:06:40 Susie: Reacted to "I don’t think it has..." with 👍 02:06:43 Sharene: Reacted to "I think we have all …" with 👍 02:06:48 Sharene: Reacted to "I agree with that as…" with 👍 02:06:53 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Reacted to "I think that the gen..." with 👍 02:06:56 May: Retaining or getting back a PC isn’t a dispute to be voted on. Otherwise why have a women’s council? 02:06:57 Arlene: Reacted to "Because Jennifer hel..." with 👍 02:07:09 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "Retaining or getting..." with 👍 02:07:10 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to Because Jennifer hel... with "👍" 02:07:22 Susie: Reacted to "Retaining or getting..." with 👍 02:07:55 Connie Waterman: Reacted to Because Jennifer hel... with "👍" 02:08:22 Connie Waterman: Reacted to Retaining or getting... with "👍" 02:12:32 Paula Christensen: I agree Aimee. I’ve thought a lot about that myself. 02:12:35 Emmelyn Redd: Agreed, Aimee! We need to call things out when they are out of order. 02:12:41 Susie: Yes Aimee, there can be those situations come up, good point 02:12:46 Holly Ong: Reacted to "Agreed, Aimee! We ne..." with 👍 02:12:50 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "I agree Aimee. I’ve ..." with ❤️ 02:12:53 Holly Ong: Reacted to "Retaining or getting..." with 👍 02:12:59 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Retaining or getting…" with 👍 02:13:20 Sharene: I would love to abstain and not invest any more time into this. I guess I just worry that the organizers will have people there to vote in favor of saying the councils were invalid, even though it seems most of the women don't feel that way, and that could be the "verdict" they accept, which means this issue will continue to go on, because they may feel the need to remedy it at that point. But if we engage until then, and vote and make our voice known in the way we've been given, I think that is the best chance of us all coming to peace about this and being able to put it behind us. I completely and 100% agree that people only have as much power as you give them, but with how hard this issue has been pressed and inserted into our lives, I worry we have to stay the course until the vote is over. As much as I would prefer not to. 02:13:27 MOJ: Why do we keep skipping Karen Strong? 02:13:34 karenstrong: YES!!!! 02:14:19 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "I would love to abst..." with ❤️ 02:14:20 karenstrong: The are skipping me because I already spoke and they are trying to get people that haven’t spoken ahead of those that haven’t. I’m totally good waiting or not even tallkingin 02:14:28 Marlene: Accusing a Women's Council, when you yourself have conducted an improper Council (of one) seems very hypocritical. 02:14:41 TammyJo: Replying to "Why do we keep skipp..." We are allow those who haven’t spoken to have their chance and then those who have had time can also take another turn 02:14:45 Susie: perhaps there can be a validation form to use to determine if a complaint against the validity of a counsel is valid its self and worthy of calling a conference 02:14:45 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "The are skipping me ..." with ❤️ 02:15:02 Mighty Heidi: Reacted to "Accusing a Women's C…" with ❤️ 02:15:07 Emmelyn Redd: A good thing about this conference is that it WILL put this issue to rest. 02:15:15 Michelle’s iPhone: They are prioritizing raised hands from women who haven’t spoken yet. 02:15:29 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Accusing a Women's C…" with 💯 02:15:33 jelb roadrunner: I'm so sorry Catherine 02:15:45 MOJ: Ok 02:15:52 Mighty Heidi: Reacted to "I'm so sorry Catheri…" with ❤️ 02:16:08 kara & trev: Reacted to "I would love to abst…" with ❤️ 02:16:08 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "I'm so sorry Catheri..." with 💔 02:16:43 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to I'm so sorry Catheri... with "💔" 02:17:07 Arlene: An important question that I believe should be put forth to the organizers is what is their perceived outcome? What do they hope to accomplish? 02:17:14 Emmelyn Redd: My heart goes out to you, Catherine. 🫂 02:17:25 Melinda Francks: That’s beautiful. I can relate having lost my son just last September and now losing my husband. This is so hard. But I love the experience we are all getting from this. 02:17:28 Ashley: Thank you Catherine, that is what this whole experience has produced for me personally. 🥰🙏🏼 02:17:38 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Thank you Catherine,…" with ❤️ 02:17:38 Ashley: Reacted to "That’s beautiful. I …" with 💕 02:17:40 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "Thank you Catherine,..." with ❤️ 02:17:46 Catherine Sweet: Reacted to "Thank you Catherine,..." with ❤️ 02:17:58 Susie: Reacted to "That’s beautiful. I ..." with ❤️ 02:17:59 Susie: Reacted to "Thank you Catherine,..." with ❤️ 02:17:59 Ashley: Reacted to "An important questio…" with 👍 02:18:08 Arlene: Reacted to "Thank you Catherine,..." with ❤️ 02:18:21 Catherine Sweet: Reacted to "I'm so sorry Catheri..." with ❤️ 02:18:24 MOJ: I’m sorry for your loss, Catherine. 😢 02:18:46 Melinda Francks: Reacted to "Thank you Catherine,…" with ❤️ 02:18:50 Kami: I think what I was going to say has been said, I just think we should attend and support the women. I also think we need to call another conference that hammer out things like no overturning council's.... 02:19:03 Arlene: Reacted to "I think what I was g..." with 👍 02:19:07 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I think what I was g…" with 👍 02:19:15 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: Reacted to "I think what I was g..." with ❤️ 02:19:16 Catherine Sweet: Reacted to "I think what I was g..." with 💞 02:19:34 Eva Gore: Absolutely genuine real concern Amanda 02:19:47 Ashley: Reacted to "Absolutely genuine r…" with 💕 02:19:47 Catherine Sweet: Reacted to "I’m sorry for your l..." with 💞 02:20:31 Catherine Sweet: Reacted to "That’s beautiful. I ..." with 💞 02:20:58 Catherine Sweet: Reacted to "My heart goes out to..." with 💜 02:23:06 Ally: Reacted to "That’s beautiful...." with 💞 02:23:12 Ashley: How else are we to truly knit our hearts together (being so far from each other physically)? 🥰 02:23:12 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to Absolutely genuine r... with "💕" 02:23:20 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Reacted to "How else are we to t..." with ❤️ 02:23:23 Melinda Francks: Reacted to "How else are we to t…" with ❤️ 02:23:50 Arlene: Reacted to "How else are we to t..." with ❤️ 02:25:30 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: Reacted to "How else are we to t..." with ❤️ 02:25:31 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "How else are we to t…" with ❤️ 02:25:54 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "How else are we to t..." with ❤️ 02:25:58 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "How else are we to t..." with ❤️ 02:26:08 Susie: Reacted to "Accusing a Women's C..." with 👍 02:26:17 Ally: Reacted to "How else are we to..." with ❤️ 02:27:31 Aimee Kincaid: Maybe a woman’s council decision ought to include a revocation document to record that the procedure was done in order with everyone signing it. So if there’s a challenge the women’s council can produce their revocation document to present to the general assembly. 02:27:53 kara & trev: Reacted to "Maybe a woman’s coun…" with ❤️ 02:28:01 Julia, AZ: Marlene! I want what you are saying! Please!! A conference for guidance, not governance!! 02:28:11 Ally: Reacted to "Marlene! I want wh..." with 💯 02:28:15 Arlene: Reacted to "Marlene! I want what..." with 💯 02:28:16 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Marlene! I want what…" with 💯 02:28:24 Ashley: Reacted to "Maybe a woman’s coun…" with ❤️ 02:28:31 Susie: Reacted to "Marlene! I want what..." with 👍 02:28:32 Eva Gore: Reacted to "Marlene! I want what..." with ❤️ 02:28:45 Eva Gore: Yes Marlene - Amen 02:28:47 Nancy Stucki: I agree, Marlene 02:28:48 Susie: Reacted to "Marlene! I want what..." with 💯 02:28:50 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "Marlene! I want what..." with 💯 02:28:53 Susie: Reacted to "Marlene! I want what..." with ❤️ 02:28:55 Ally: Reacted to "Yes Marlene - Amen" with ❤️ 02:29:04 jelb roadrunner: Reacted to "Yes Marlene - Amen" with ❤️ 02:29:06 Susie: Reacted to "Yes Marlene - Amen" with ❤️ 02:29:09 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to Marlene! I want what... with "💯" 02:29:09 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "Yes Marlene - Amen" with ❤️ 02:29:19 Susie: Reacted to "I agree, Marlene" with 👍 02:29:27 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to Maybe a woman’s coun... with "❤️" 02:29:34 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to I agree, Marlene with "👍" 02:29:37 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to Yes Marlene - Amen with "❤️" 02:29:39 ann marie: yes Marlene !!! Perfectly said 02:29:54 Paula Christensen: Well said Marlene. 02:30:04 Ashley: Reacted to "Marlene! I want what…" with 💯 02:30:08 Ashley: Reacted to "Yes Marlene - Amen" with ❤️ 02:30:13 Catherine Sweet: Agreed Michelle!! 02:30:15 Mighty Heidi: Reacted to "Well said Marlene." with ❤️ 02:30:18 Mighty Heidi: Reacted to "yes Marlene !!! Perf…" with ❤️ 02:30:21 Ashley: Reacted to "Well said Marlene." with ❤️ 02:30:22 Ashley: Reacted to "yes Marlene !!! Perf…" with ❤️ 02:30:22 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to yes Marlene !!! Perf... with "👍" 02:30:22 Ally: Reacted to "Agreed Michelle!!" with ❤️ 02:30:23 Ashley: Reacted to "I agree, Marlene" with 👍 02:30:37 Ashley: Reacted to "Agreed Michelle!!" with ❤️ 02:30:43 Ally: Reacted to "Well said Marlene." with ❤️ 02:30:44 Ally: Reacted to "yes Marlene !!! Pe..." with ❤️ 02:30:46 Ally: Reacted to "I agree, Marlene" with 👍 02:30:50 Emmelyn Redd: Replying to "Maybe a woman’s coun…" I love that idea, Aimee. I notice that WCL2 did have a document like that, which they shared with the whole movement, and all signed with their names, all agreeing that the council proceedings were done according to instruction. 02:31:11 Ashley: Reacted to "I love that idea, Ai…" with 💕 02:31:22 karenstrong: 9:00 02:31:23 Amanda Schutz Clayton: The women’s conferences were also suggested (“LET them call a conference….”) because there are/were disputes among the women that are/were not being resolved any other way. The conferences are a way to visually see what the majority of the women attending think, and there’s a mutual agreement to go with the majority vote and drop a dispute (until the next vote called at least…) Why in the world would a “dispute conference” be a reliable governing body over the whole movement? 02:31:28 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "9:00" with 👍 02:31:29 karenstrong: Or now if we are done 02:31:42 Susie: is the conf being streamed live? 02:31:49 Kylee: Reacted to Or now if we are don... with "❤️" 02:32:12 Catherine Sweet: Goodnight everyone! Good to be with all of you! <3 02:32:19 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Replying to "is the conf being st..." No. They said they won’t stream it unless the council women make a statement that they don’t support voting outside of the conference. 02:32:19 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: Replying to "is the conf being st..." no, its really too bad 02:32:35 Michelle Ball: I think we should end by 9 02:32:42 TammyJo: Reacted to "I think we should en..." with 👍 02:33:09 Susie: Reacted to "no, its really too b..." with 😞 02:33:17 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I think we should en…" with 👍 02:33:22 Amanda Schutz Clayton: It’s so good to get together and chat with everyone! 02:33:26 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "no, its really too b…" with 😞 02:33:39 Ashley: Reacted to "It’s so good to get …" with 💕 02:33:44 Ally: Reacted to "9:00" with 👍 02:33:57 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "No. They said they w…" with 😞 02:34:04 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "It’s so good to get …" with 💕 02:35:10 Ally: Reacted to "Goodnight everyone..." with ❤️ 02:35:13 Ally: Reacted to "I think we should ..." with 👍 02:35:14 Ally: Reacted to "It’s so good to g..." with 💕 02:35:35 Ally: I believe the title is The Great Competition 02:35:44 Julia, AZ: Annette, great you're here! Late for you there. 02:35:45 TammyJo: Reacted to "I believe the title ..." with 💚 02:35:51 Ally: Reacted to "Annette, great you..." with 💕 02:37:14 karenstrong: Amen, Amen and amen on the absolute lack of compassion for allowing ALL interested attend. My heart breaks about it. It is not something that I believe pleases are parents after so many have begged for inclusion. When THEY gave us the technology to allow it. It’s a shame. 02:37:32 Arlene: Reacted to "Amen, Amen and amen ..." with ❤️ 02:37:34 Mighty Heidi: Reacted to "Amen, Amen and amen …" with ❤️ 02:37:37 Kathi Or: Reacted to Amen, Amen and amen ... with "❤️" 02:37:40 Nancy Stucki: Reacted to Amen, Amen and amen ... with "❤️" 02:37:42 Susie: Reacted to "Amen, Amen and amen ..." with ❤️ 02:37:47 Ally: Reacted to "Amen, Amen and ame..." with ❤️ 02:37:47 TammyJo: Reacted to "Amen, Amen and amen ..." with 💔 02:37:50 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to Annette, great you'r... with "💕" 02:38:26 Joanna and Natalie and Aimee Briscoe: Reacted to "Amen, Amen and amen ..." with ❤️ 02:39:06 Alyssa Prater: Reacted to Amen, Amen and amen ... with "❤️" 02:39:09 Ashley: Awesome sauce 🙌🏼 02:39:10 TammyJo: I LOVE that Kathy…AWESOME SAUCE!!!🤣 02:39:16 Ashley: Reacted to "I LOVE that Kathy…AW…" with 💕 02:39:19 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to Awesome sauce 🙌🏼 with "👍" 02:39:21 Ally: Reacted to "Awesome sauce 🙌..." with 👍 02:39:24 Ally: Reacted to "I LOVE that Kathy..." with 💯 02:39:28 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to I LOVE that Kathy…AW... with "💯" 02:39:36 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "Amen, Amen and amen ..." with 💔 02:39:39 Arlene: Reacted to "Awesome sauce 🙌🏼" with 👍 02:39:43 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to Amen, Amen and amen ... with "❤️" 02:40:01 Paula Christensen: Love that Kathy 02:40:30 Bethany’s iPhone: Come back to me 02:40:34 Bethany’s iPhone: Mics broken for a sec 02:40:38 Mighty Heidi: I have really wanted to hear the experiences of women who have been on Councils. Things that work, things that didn't work and their suggestions from having been in the trenches. 02:40:54 Ally: Reacted to "I have really want..." with 💯 02:41:09 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "I have really wanted..." with 👍 02:41:21 Kathy Alexander: Reacted to "I have really wanted..." with ❤️ 02:42:28 Julia, AZ: Which Stephanie post is being referred to?? 02:42:47 Ashley: Replying to "Which Stephanie post…" Stephanie Snuffer on Denver’s blog 02:43:06 Julia, AZ: Reacted to Stephanie Snuffer on... with "👍" 02:44:50 Bethany’s iPhone: Guest post on Denver’s blog 02:45:40 Michelle’s iPhone: Reacted to "It’s so good to get …" with 💕 02:45:48 karenstrong: Thank you, Amanda. That is very true. 02:45:57 Ally: Reacted to "Thank you, Amanda...." with ❤️ 02:47:31 Michelle Ball: Restoration Archives would be a good place. 02:47:40 TammyJo: Reacted to "Restoration Archives..." with 💚 02:48:24 Michelle Ball: Yes 02:48:34 Marie Johnatakis: Reacted to "Restoration Archives..." with 💚 02:48:36 Lynne Robbins: Replying to "I have really wanted..." Unless God sends an angel with a drawn sword and commands me to be on a women's council in the future I won't do it. Trenches, as in a war is an apt description... 02:48:45 Ally: Reacted to "Unless God sends a..." with ❤️ 02:48:58 Holly Ong: ❤️ Thank You Ally 02:49:06 TammyJo: Reacted to "❤️ Thank You Ally" with 💚 02:49:10 Alyssa Prater: Thank you for doing this, Ally! ❤️ 02:49:10 Ashley: Reacted to "❤️ Thank You Ally" with 💚 02:50:06 Emmelyn Redd: Just wanted to mention again, for those who are interested, hang tight for the defense from the council women. My mom and several others who were on the councils are working tirelessly, sacrificing all their time and energy to put together everything they need to based on Jennifer’s paper, and have been given very little time to do so. No matter what side of this whole debacle you are on, I believe these women could use prayers for peace, clarity, and comfort right now. 02:50:10 Lynn : Reacted to "Marlene! I want what..." with ❤️ 02:50:15 Lynn : Reacted to "Yes Marlene - Amen" with ❤️ 02:50:16 May Archuletta: Reacted to "Just wanted to menti…" with ❤️ 02:50:16 Ally: allymiabishop@gmail.com 02:50:28 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I have really wanted…" with 💯 02:50:29 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I have really wanted…" with ❤️ 02:50:35 Kami: Reacted to Just wanted to menti... with "❤️" 02:50:39 Ashley: Reacted to "Just wanted to menti…" with ❤️ 02:50:39 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Reacted to "Just wanted to menti..." with ❤️ 02:50:47 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "Just wanted to menti..." with ❤️ 02:50:49 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Amen, Amen and amen …" with ❤️ 02:50:53 McKaye Johnson: Reacted to "Just wanted to menti…" with ❤️ 02:50:54 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "Amen, Amen and amen …" with 💔 02:50:57 Mellody Fausett: Reacted to "Just wanted to menti..." with ❤️ 02:51:00 Michelle Ball: Reacted to "Just wanted to menti…" with ❤️ 02:51:08 ann marie: ❤️ 02:51:16 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Thank you for hosting this meeting, Ally! 💕 02:51:23 Ashley: Thank you Ally!! 02:51:26 iPhone (19): A huge thank you, to each of you.❤️ 02:51:35 Ashley: Reacted to "A huge thank you, to…" with 💕 02:52:38 Lynne Robbins: Reacted to Just wanted to menti... with "❤️" 02:53:15 angie cella: Thanks everyone, and Ally ❤️🙏 02:53:22 Kami: Amen! 02:53:30 Holly Ong: I think that in the future it would be great to discuss how to conduct a womens conference better in the future when perhaps there are calmer, less sensitive emotions surrounding it. Perhaps a way that would make it possible to have it covered online and be able to vote from our homes too. Maybe also if it is so sensitive a topic that there needs to be more than 20 women agree to the conference. 02:53:32 Michelle Ball: ❤️ 02:53:50 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Reacted to "I think that in the ..." with 👍 02:53:54 Eva Gore: Reacted to "I think that in the ..." with ❤️ 02:53:56 Naomi Pankratz: Reacted to "I think that in the ..." with ❤️ 02:54:02 Lynne Robbins: Replying to "I have really wanted..." Love to you all - New Jerusalem First Ward Relief Society! 02:54:03 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Replying to "I think that in the ..." Good thoughts! 02:54:18 Amanda Schutz Clayton: Reacted to "I have really wanted..." with 💯 02:54:21 Michelle’s iPhone: Reacted to "I think that in the …" with 👍 02:54:23 McKaye Johnson: Thanks, Ally! 02:54:47 Ally: Reacted to "I think that in th..." with ❤️ 02:55:16 Lacey Quigley: Thanks for organizing this, Ally! 02:56:14 Emmelyn Redd: Heidi has left, but to reply to her question, no, the council’s new defense will be available on its own website, separate from 14unanimous.com 02:56:27 Emmelyn Redd: Reacted to "I think that in the …" with ❤️